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Bramblestar is Worse

Is this video an hour long? Yes. I'm sorry.
BGA's video on a similar topic: mnmore.info/bin/video/f4aos6ivpZm1dZM
Abuse information (likely discussing potentially inappropriate topics, be careful):
www.talkspace.com/blog/cycle-of-abuse-domestic-violence/
www.thehotline.org/identify-abuse/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_abuse
ncadv.org/why-do-victims-stay

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  1. KoolKeldeo 105

    KoolKeldeo 105

    4 өдрийн өмнө

    Timestamps: Section One | Introduction 0:01 Section Two | In "The New Prophecy" 4:50 Section Three | In "Leafpool's Wish" 14:31 Section Four | In "Power of Three" 16:38 Section Five | In "Omen of the Stars" 18:14 Section Six | In "Bramblestar's Storm" 24:18 Section Seven | In "A Vision of Shadows" 31:49 Section Eight | In "Squirrelflight's Hope" 32:34 Section Nine | Conclusion 1:00:38

    • AdoQhina

      AdoQhina

      20 цагийн өмнө

      Wow, thanks! :3

    • Catzie_

      Catzie_

      Өдрийн өмнө

      This is a whole novel 😂

    • Nugget the gecko

      Nugget the gecko

      2 өдрийн өмнө

      Thanks!

    • Very Crunchy Pretzels

      Very Crunchy Pretzels

      2 өдрийн өмнө

      *Noice*

    • ♡AshAnimates♡

      ♡AshAnimates♡

      2 өдрийн өмнө

      Thank you!

  2. Icebirb

    Icebirb

    30 минутын өмнө

    I think i know why she chose bramble. Bramble was toxic, and in toxic relationships, even after,(i at least) had a feeling of "maybe i should go back"/"maybe i did something wrong"/maybe it could work out"/etc. etc. Maybe that was going on with her?

  3. TriptoAddict

    TriptoAddict

    4 цагийн өмнө

    Moon, I hope you post this on Twitter and just tag every Erin in it lmao. This pairing should have split AGES ago.

  4. Ember the Flareon

    Ember the Flareon

    4 цагийн өмнө

    this was very interesting and fun to watch. i have school in 4 hours.

  5. R K

    R K

    5 цагийн өмнө

    JESUS CHRIST WAIT ITS AN HOUR LONG LMFAO

  6. Shorty'sRemedy

    Shorty'sRemedy

    5 цагийн өмнө

    Sort of wish Firestar had left Brambleclaw in that tree... >_> Y’all know which tree.

  7. Doggo Pickle

    Doggo Pickle

    5 цагийн өмнө

    See even moon kitti thinks that bramble claw sucks

  8. wow

    wow

    5 цагийн өмнө

    *This is a warning sign that Squirrelflight is in a bad relationship.*

  9. GoldenCookieKat

    GoldenCookieKat

    5 цагийн өмнө

    This made me realize my father may be abusive

  10. ButterMcNugget

    ButterMcNugget

    5 цагийн өмнө

    Ashfur is squirrelflights uncle

    • Ravenclaw Thestral

      Ravenclaw Thestral

      4 цагийн өмнө

      Half-uncle, but that’s only to some shifty stuff that was just ‘Sandstorm’s mother was... um... random cat that doesn’t fit into the plot or Sandstorm’s character but was still a female that existed, so yeah, it totally fits.’

  11. blackkitty369

    blackkitty369

    6 цагийн өмнө

    I loved your video! I loved your points you made.

  12. blegh

    blegh

    7 цагийн өмнө

    its been two years since i read warriors and to come back and see everyone collectively hate on bramblebutt is satisfying

  13. Rayven Goodman

    Rayven Goodman

    7 цагийн өмнө

    I absolutely hate the fact that people defend Bramblestar, as someone who has been in an abusive relationship, it’s like a slap in the face. This is a struggle for to type. My ex was severely emotionally and mentally abusive towards me throughout our relationship. He was constantly yelling at me, belittling me, made me severe friendships I had. He once punched the wall, inches close to my face. He did a lot of terrible things to me in our relationship, despite me saying no.. a few of my most favorites is when he wanted to was when he wanted to have s*x with me I told him no and proceeded to yell at me because “I was wasting his time”. Our senior Prom he told me “You look like a Mexican wh*re.” and then expected me to want to go sleep at his house that night and when I refused he yelled at me for that. One year on my birthday I was navigating him to see some Christmas lights and I told him to take the wrong turn. A simple accident. He yelled at me again. My most favorite is when he got drunk with his friends and sent pictures of my boobs to one of them and proceeded to blame me for it. He is a piece of sh*t. I know for a fact that he treated his other girlfriends like that as well. Bramblestar shows all of these signs. He’s disgusting and he would have been the same way with Jessy or any other cat he could get with. He’s toxic for anyone.

  14. Cenna Noble

    Cenna Noble

    7 цагийн өмнө

    I haven't been into Warriors for a long time but this video... it sucked me in

  15. magic unboxing

    magic unboxing

    8 цагийн өмнө

    omw bramblestars nickname should be brambleshit

  16. Thestoneofdoom

    Thestoneofdoom

    9 цагийн өмнө

    I never liked squirrel flight. I found her annoying and still do- but she doesn’t deserve what she’s been through.

  17. Egg Yok

    Egg Yok

    9 цагийн өмнө

    *Maybe it was for the best for Squilf to be with Ash*

    • Ravenclaw Thestral

      Ravenclaw Thestral

      4 цагийн өмнө

      Ash probably would hv been just as bad considering he turned into a child murderer when his unofficial girlfriend of a few weeks broke it off.

  18. Slasher Cat

    Slasher Cat

    9 цагийн өмнө

    love how all the popular warriors MNmorers are now commenting in support of cancelling Bramblestar lol, we can do it

  19. Rain spirit

    Rain spirit

    10 цагийн өмнө

    1. squilf did cheat for XX amoung of mins/seconds/hours depending on when she told Ash that she wanted to break up.

  20. Sierra Kaye

    Sierra Kaye

    10 цагийн өмнө

    t a i l f l o o f

  21. Okardare

    Okardare

    11 цагийн өмнө

    Honestly, I am very sad about what they did with the character of Bramblestar, I understand that at first he had daddy issues, or even that he felt personal Squirrel's distrust of his brother, for that, but he has not evolved from there, rather the opposite . He did not get to know his father but Firestar and his mother were always with him, he can even see his sister in the gatherings, he always had more than one example to follow to be a decent cat but they threw all that away. Although Tigerstar is his biological father, he was never there for Bramble, his son never really got to know him, other than being Shadowclan's leader; Bramble himself chose his own clan over his father (if I remember correctly) and he himself saw the worst in his father when his own decisions led to his death with Scourge, and you tell me that he preferred a thousand times to train in the Darkforest with Tigerstar and his brother, rather than talking about it with his partner, his sister, or even Firestar who did more of a father figure than Tigerstar was to any of his children. I would understand that decision, if he was still an apprentince, but he was already an adult and he had a lot of time to think and learn to continue with his daddy issues. I am not saying that they are easily resolved, but I do not understand why he continues with that idea that the clan has something against him, if he had already proven his loyalty in previous books. It's just not rational, especially when Bramble wanted to be the complete opposite of his father. It is as if they have forgotten all the plot, trauma and evolution that Bramble had. What's more, he has the same abusive relationship that his father had, and it doesn't make sense. He really never had anyone to talk to and tell him what it was like to have a healthy relationship? or an example to follow to have a healthy relationship? They are a whole clan but it is as if its members never talk to another cat beyond their partners or for simple things like patrols, and it is annoying because that prevents a more natural and real interaction, and at the same time the evolution of characters.

  22. TheMeowNoob

    TheMeowNoob

    11 цагийн өмнө

    I think Moonkitti is right think about it! If you're a Moonkitti hater don't disagree with her she is right! And even if you think sghe is wrong THINK ABOUT IT! Brambleclaw didn't fight for a good reason but Squirrelflight DID! If you don't see how then I don't know why you are doing this! You can easily see that she also uses citations just to show proof this is more than correct! This is literaly true. I have noticed this since I have read the books and you can easily tell!

  23. Amber Molohon

    Amber Molohon

    11 цагийн өмнө

    I bet when Squilf has had enough of Bramblestars treatment she'll just commit suicide right in front of Bramblestar and it would go like this: Squilf: Bramblestar you have gone too far, I'm leaving and never coming back Bramblestar: What are you talking about? (Squilf unsheathed her claws and clawed herself in the throat in front of Bramblestar and the whole clan) Squilf with her final breathe: You did this to me Bramblestar (dies) Bramblestar in a project G1 Thomas fashion: NOOO. NO NO NONONO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  24. Ava Braxton

    Ava Braxton

    11 цагийн өмнө

    I'd like to add the fact that (SPOILERS) In the broken code, possessed Bramblestar treats Squirrelflight badly. He guilt trips her, abuses her both physically and mentally, and abandons her. Now this behavior can be excused on the fact that it isnt really Bramblestar. But what unsettled me the most when reading was how the clan responded. A large portion of the clan didn't seem too bothered about it for a while. Why? Because this has become a normal Bramblestar thing. Nobody figured out that Bramblestar was possessed because this new cat is acting a lot like Bramblestar. NOTE: I have only read up until the second book in the Broken Code. So please don't spoil anything for me.

  25. Bravestar

    Bravestar

    12 цагийн өмнө

    good video, you made some good points buuut can we just say... 4'11'' GANG RISE UP, SHORT PEOPLE RISE UP, SHORT PEOPLE GANG LEZ GO

  26. Madison Drinkwalter

    Madison Drinkwalter

    12 цагийн өмнө

    I love the art in this. So much thought has been put into this video

  27. Cheetah Jayne

    Cheetah Jayne

    12 цагийн өмнө

    33:07 wait, bright guardian akira is a she-

    • Cheetah Jayne

      Cheetah Jayne

      2 цагийн өмнө

      @Ravenclaw Thestral oh wow-

    • Ravenclaw Thestral

      Ravenclaw Thestral

      4 цагийн өмнө

      Yeah, she’s trans.

  28. l ol

    l ol

    13 цагийн өмнө

    Wait Bright Guardian Akira is a girl ???

  29. Generic Rat Mom

    Generic Rat Mom

    13 цагийн өмнө

    Came into this doubtful, came out a full believer in all of what you said. N my only response to this is yikes. Great video, great points. Fat fat fat yikes.

  30. Warrior Cats

    Warrior Cats

    13 цагийн өмнө

    Preach, Moonkitti!

  31. gardencarcass

    gardencarcass

    13 цагийн өмнө

    also, the way she speaks of wanting kids and being sad they don't spend more time alone together sounds to me like a metaphor for their sex life going poorly. since it can be such an important and emotional part of many people's relationship, no wonder she feels sad by him not wanting kits. she knows she shouldn't force him to have sex since he doesn't want to, but he makes her sound like she's trying to pressure her as well. I get very deflecting "you're the abuser" vibes from that whole deal

  32. Eucalyptus _Wolfie

    Eucalyptus _Wolfie

    14 цагийн өмнө

    My warrior cats rating Squirrel’flight: 9/10 Bramble’star: 2/10 Fire’star: 8/10 Gray’stripe: 6/10 Raven’paw: 9/10 Blue’star: 9/10 Yellow’fang: 10/10 Lion’heart: 10/10 That’s all I’m gonna do-

  33. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    14 цагийн өмнө

    squirrelflight should try girls

  34. Lil coffee Doggo

    Lil coffee Doggo

    14 цагийн өмнө

    “YA JUST LIKE YA FATHER” -leafpools angry ghost

  35. Sassyfever

    Sassyfever

    15 цагийн өмнө

    Okay, hehe, abusive Bramblestar was apparently an accident. On the Darkness Within spoilers page, pg no. 28 I believe, someone mentions this video indirectly and asks if Bramble was abusive. Kate replies with "Bramblestar, abusive? Absolutely not. He would be incapable of it. He is one of our most honourable warriors. He and Squirrelflight may have differences of opinion but he always her as an equal and with respect." Not to be rude,, but when has Bramble treated her with respect??? He's always so condescending.... Link to website: blogclan.katecary.co.uk/2020/02/12/darkness-within-spoiler-page/comment-page-28/#comments

  36. Annadog40

    Annadog40

    15 цагийн өмнө

    Though how was bramblebad as a parent

  37. Meghan Lawson

    Meghan Lawson

    15 цагийн өмнө

    Please make a podcast

  38. ᴡɪɴɪɢʀᴇᴛ

    ᴡɪɴɪɢʀᴇᴛ

    16 цагийн өмнө

    Жаль, что я плохо знаю английский и не смогу это перевести :с

  39. Bunno Blizzard

    Bunno Blizzard

    16 цагийн өмнө

    Ok hear me out and no hate please: As much as everyone is split on how much they like bramblestar (as in some people like him some people don't) I think Squirrelflight should've been deputy from the start and should've been with someone else/single. She's the type of character who is fine on their own or with A MUCH HEALTHIER RELATIONSHIP *Clears throat* that's a sign your in a bad relationship squirlf! Why does she not see this abusive situation, you ask? Either because she's a flippn' cat or bc she's blinded by love.

  40. Kyle The Wolf

    Kyle The Wolf

    16 цагийн өмнө

    My cat looks like thunderstar lol

  41. Sky Wolf

    Sky Wolf

    16 цагийн өмнө

    Me, being a victim of both mental and physical abuse agree on all levels.

  42. Ghost scouts

    Ghost scouts

    16 цагийн өмнө

    You should totally do a audio book or sm your voice is so pretty

  43. Bob Builder

    Bob Builder

    16 цагийн өмнө

    Red flag

  44. Lunathefox 144

    Lunathefox 144

    16 цагийн өмнө

    i really love when you rant it makes me happy (and i luv your art)

  45. Pinkie Dash

    Pinkie Dash

    16 цагийн өмнө

    New ship as arrived 🚢🚢🚢🚢🚢 Moon × Squirrel = MoonFlight 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  46. MoBehr

    MoBehr

    16 цагийн өмнө

    I had to take a break halfway through this because holy hell does it really hurt to see the same personality as my abusive ex. I used to love brambleclaw BC I didn’t recognize abuse. Now I do and I HATE HIM HATE HIM.

  47. Eevee and Pikachu

    Eevee and Pikachu

    16 цагийн өмнө

    Honestly, I like squirrelflight as a character overall. In the other books she was pretty good in my opinion, but during the trip with Dovewing, Squirrelflight, Alderheart, and another I forgot the name of, Foxleap?, Bramblestar specifically said to both Alderheart and Squirrelflight that Alderheart was in charge and then later Squirrelflight blatantly said “Alderheart! I’m in charge, not you, remember?” It was that book I hated her in the most but it just seemed really out of character for her in my opinion but please don’t hate on me if you think differently. I respect your opinion if you disagree with this so please respect mine.

  48. I Have Tamales

    I Have Tamales

    17 цагийн өмнө

    I need subtitles in this video in spanish ... Sorry my english Is bad

  49. chunus

    chunus

    17 цагийн өмнө

    🤦🤦🤦 no just no you're wrong he's not abusive just like squirrelflight isn't either, they've both done wrong, but they're not that bad, although now they shouldn't be mates if they can't keep their personal & professional life separate, they're not a good team together as mates and leaders.

  50. Heather Hudson

    Heather Hudson

    17 цагийн өмнө

    It's been 5 days.... I've watching it 4 times.... Why am I like this.....

  51. epic gaymer

    epic gaymer

    17 цагийн өмнө

    You sound like peridot from Steven Universe-

  52. Mox Mox

    Mox Mox

    17 цагийн өмнө

    this showed up in my recs and idk shit about warrior cats because i read some books in the wrong order, but squirrelflight should have joined the sisters

  53. livy janee

    livy janee

    17 цагийн өмнө

    Are we not going to mention the gorgeous art in this?!

  54. Featherflame

    Featherflame

    17 цагийн өмнө

    I hate how Brambleclaw doesn't like Squilf not trusting Hawkfrost because of his parentage, when Brambleclaw himself is ALSO Tigerstar's son....

    • Prime The Great

      Prime The Great

      16 цагийн өмнө

      I think that was what the Erins were intending. He thought her dislike of Hawk was because Hawk was Tigerstar’s son, and that she only disliked Hawk because Bramble was “one of the good ones”. Of course, she was right to distrust him and Bramble was wrong about why she did it.

  55. Dolphinz

    Dolphinz

    18 цагийн өмнө

    The ernis probably tried to make bramble a good character but when they realised how awful they made him they just rolled with it.

  56. Project_BadLands

    Project_BadLands

    18 цагийн өмнө

    Bramble star is SOOOO toxic! Poor squirrelflight is being manipulated and seemed to be developing Stockholm syndrome. Squilf is a QUEEN and deserves respect and love!

  57. EveryThingGirl238

    EveryThingGirl238

    18 цагийн өмнө

    I"m sorry but if other cats can see it why doesn't anyone just tell Squirrelflight to just put her foot down with him. Worst that can happen is Bramblestar makes her a warrior again, fine, then let someone else deal with him see how hard it is to get him to listen. I get the feeling he keeps her in that position because he can control her. Knowing for a fact any other cat wouldn't listen to him. I get this feeling no cat of the Tigerstar line should ever be a mate...

  58. EveryThingGirl238

    EveryThingGirl238

    19 цагийн өмнө

    Necromancer what now? Hold up? What!?

  59. Rockheart Studios

    Rockheart Studios

    19 цагийн өмнө

    I somehow got permission to do an essay on Bramblestar's abuse. I am using your video as a source, thank you Moonkitti.

  60. Ally Li

    Ally Li

    19 цагийн өмнө

    What astounds me most is the fact that people genuinely thought it was okay for Bramble to treat squirrel like this because she would fight back. Like, people chose teams and would close the ears off to abuse victims pointing out all his shit. Looking on the forums, and people actually think it’s okay to pull your partner around like they’re your child and hurt them for just being themself if you find them annoying.

  61. Ally Li

    Ally Li

    19 цагийн өмнө

    What astounds me most is the fact that people genuinely thought it was okay for Bramble to treat squirrel like this because she would fight back. Like, people chose teams and would close the ears off to abuse victims pointing out all his shit. Looking on the forums, and people actually think it’s okay to pull your partner around like they’re your child and hurt them for just being themself if you find them annoying.

  62. Alexandrite Animations

    Alexandrite Animations

    20 цагийн өмнө

    I love this video and veri much agreh wit it

  63. Hachimitsu ᓚᘏᗢ

    Hachimitsu ᓚᘏᗢ

    20 цагийн өмнө

    I never realized how abusive Bramblestar was. It's really not ok for him to be abusing Squirrelflight. It's mostly emotional abusive, but in the future, if the Erins decide to, I want Bramblestar to actually not be with Squirrel.

  64. Collor Fem

    Collor Fem

    20 цагийн өмнө

    То чувство когда ничо не понял, но очень интересно.

  65. Chirpy and Bessie the Blobs

    Chirpy and Bessie the Blobs

    20 цагийн өмнө

    this is a perfecct description of gaslighting (look it up) and its sick, #brambletrash

  66. Ariella Poi

    Ariella Poi

    20 цагийн өмнө

    bouta write a fanfiction where our babey squilf gets with ashfur and brambleclaw is called out for his actions. I'm going to have everythings else stay okay but bramble doesn't become a leader.

  67. Georgia Wood

    Georgia Wood

    21 цагийн өмнө

    you NEVER miss

  68. Floor Visscher

    Floor Visscher

    21 цагийн өмнө

    I just realized the reason why I loved silver x gray so much. Yes, it was forbidden. Yes, it was kinda short and didnt end well. But the tom was clearly head over heels while the female stayed independent. I feel like they genuinely loved each other. That is something I dont see as much with other couples, except for with ferncloud and dustpelt (dustpelt right?) and maybe firestar and sandstorm. Graystripe was just a softy who fell for the pretty girl, while firestar and sandstorm feels more platonic (or boring) to me

    • Okardare

      Okardare

      10 цагийн өмнө

      The only thing I hate about that relationship is that Graystripe started to become very irresponsible, I don't know how it would have been on Silver's side, but Firestar mentions how he had to teach Gray's apprentice since he was never there and it was also due to his carelessness that Cinderpelt ended up run down. I think they may have had their forbidden relationship, but beyond the personal consequences was the effect they had on the cats (?) around them. I also think that another healthy relationship, although I have not read the book as such, was Bluestar and Oakheart?

  69. Skitteryboo Speedpaint

    Skitteryboo Speedpaint

    21 цагийн өмнө

    Oh god she still associates kittens with normal life-

  70. Cat the Destoryer

    Cat the Destoryer

    21 цагийн өмнө

    moon please dont stop complaining about cat books i like to listen to you rant while i draw

  71. Fairytalesim

    Fairytalesim

    22 цагийн өмнө

    Me not knowing anything about warrior cats or whatever this is about: 0_0

  72. Krista Robertson

    Krista Robertson

    22 цагийн өмнө

    Moonkitti: I'm trying not to give you every example where Bramblestar is awful to his mate Me, who's ready and willing to destroy this moron: NO PLEASE CONTINUE

  73. Dusty Shadow

    Dusty Shadow

    22 цагийн өмнө

    I hope she becomes leader, and his spirit goes to the dark forest. This was an amazing overview of their relationship.

  74. Macaroon Moon

    Macaroon Moon

    22 цагийн өмнө

    Honestly this is why I wish Squilf got with Ashfur I feel like they would’ve been better if it stayed how they were in the second series :(

    • Ravenclaw Thestral

      Ravenclaw Thestral

      4 цагийн өмнө

      Definitely not. I don’t get why so many people are saying this? If he resorted to murdering young adults when his unofficial girlfriend of a few months broke up with him, he’s not going to be a good mate.

  75. Kitty Meowers

    Kitty Meowers

    23 цагийн өмнө

    When you said “ squirrelflight gets an awnser “ i misheard an thought you said squirrelflight gets cancer

  76. Dyu

    Dyu

    23 цагийн өмнө

    Everyone's always blaming Bramblestar for how he treated her during Omen of the Stars, but no one considers the emotional betrayal he went through. Keep in mind, the second arc was all about earning respect among his Clanmates. The Three were born after the second arc. Brambleclaw's approach wasn't correct, but you have to consider the fact that he was grieving. She didn't want to get her mate tied up in all the drama, but going through it together would have definitely helped the mental situation for both of them. He felt that even after everything, his mate didn't trust him. I think everyone blames Bramblestar because he wasn't fleshed out properly. He was deeply hurt by Squirrelflight for a good reason. Instead of saying that he's a terrible leader, look at what he went through. In the second arc, even though she was right, I feel that Squirrelflight was letting her jealousy bind her. After all, the second Brambleclaw became deputy, she immediately saw Tigerstar. This whole series is about the logistic that Clan cats hold onto things too long and keep picking old wounds. The entire series is centralized around one theme: Forgiveness. Even Leafpool thought her sister was going too far. Sure, she was right, but she was lucky. She would've completely destroyed her relationship with Brambleclaw. If she seriously believed that Brambleclaw should stop talking to Hawkfrost, she should've pulled him over, told him Leafpool's observation and let him decide. If he had refuted this, then sure. But she didn't even try. Of course, he would've become upset. But if Squirrelflight had told him, then it actually would've gone better. And I just couldn't get this part of Squirrelflight's Hope out of my head: Is not having kits in the middle of such a delicate situation being your number 1 priority in the middle of a border crisis justification for someone's death? Why does everyone find what Squirrelflight said okay?! She said that she wanted her mate to die so that way she could become a leader! Joke's on you, Squirrelstar. Enjoy your leadership duties now that your mate is dead and possessed by your ex. I'm just really frustrated that everyone points fingers at Bramblestar the second something involving him and Squirrelflight goes wrong. He's not perfect, but neither is his love. Please don't take offense. Also, I'm not a Squilf hater. I think she's a very lively cat, but I find some things she did unacceptable. And the fact that so many people defend her actions is beyond me. However, I have another reason to hate her Super Edition, and it has nothing to do with my Brambleboi. Ask me why.

    • Dyu

      Dyu

      32 минутын өмнө

      @Ravenclaw Thestral Sorry. I didn't want to make it sound like that. I meant it as a transition. Like, "Okay, why?" so I could move onto my next points. And it was mostly meant as a rhetorical question/transition. Sorry if I offended anyone. I won't use it now on, if you want.

    • Ravenclaw Thestral

      Ravenclaw Thestral

      4 цагийн өмнө

      Ew. That ‘ask me why’ really was just... wanting attention? Wanting an argument? I’m not sure, but you really want people to respond to you,

    • sourcreampringles

      sourcreampringles

      20 цагийн өмнө

      So you’re saying an abuser is better than an annoying cat? Everything Squirrel has felt in her super edition was the exact cycle of abuse. Sure what she did in arc3 was wrong, but the literal gods of the clans, which as Moon stated, nobody disobeyed, told her to take the kits. Bramble had the right to end the relationship there, but should have just been the end of it.

    • Dyu

      Dyu

      23 цагийн өмнө

      By the way, thank you to whoever liked my comment. It makes me feel a whole lot less isolated and alone since I often feel like I am always alone trying to defend Bramblestar. He's not perfect but neither is Squirrelflight. It means a lot when you like my comments!

    • Dyu

      Dyu

      23 цагийн өмнө

      Okay, since no one asked, I'll just go along with it. (It was a rhetorical question, anyway) Every other GOOD Super Edition, like Crowfeather's Trial, Crookedstar's Promise or Tallstar's Revenge, dealt with a character and their struggle to accept and rectify their flaws. For Crowfeather, it's letting love into his heart and learning to let go of the past. For Crookedstar, it was learning the value of loyalty and when deciding loyalty, you need to let your heart lead the way, not your head. Finally, (And I don't know if any Super Edition has made their main character's flaw so obvious, yet compelling, Tallstar (or Talltail) learning how revenge will never bring him peace of mind. I'm going to say it: Squirrelflight is a Mary Sue. Now, I think I can already hear the Squilf fans screaming yowls of protest, but just hear me out: She is the daughter of Firestar, our little Gary-Sue (And I don't have too much of a problem with Mary Sues/Gary Sues. I have a problem with them when they yell and people completely support their decision when they went about it the wrong way, as my earlier comment already proved) and she herself is one. What happened with the Hawkfrost & Brambleclaw drama? She was right, all along. (Even though it's clear, if you actually read in between the lines, that she had no reason to do that, other than blind suspicion, and you know, that little thing about needlessly clawing Brambleclaw's ears off after he objected, when she hadn't even given any evidence) What about the Three? She did the right thing! What about after she and Brambleclaw broke up? She was doing the right thing! And on, and on, and on! She's. Always. Right. And the authors take every chance they get to remind you of that! (No offense, Erin Hunter) Everyone acts like she can do no wrong! Now I'll give you my Warriors history, in a nutshell: I started watching these videos when the lockdown occurred. Then, I found some online books and read them. I got involved right after Veil of Shadows came out, so I basically read almost every book in one 2-month sitting. Back on topic: When I read her Super Edition, I wanted to see Squirrelflight as a deputy trying to do the right thing, but also realizing her many flaws and making an effort to fix them. I know that everyone says she "grew" as a character in every arc, but honestly, the only real character growth I see is from Arc 2 to 3. From spoiled brat to a disciplined, serious warrior. Anything after that, I'd like to call it "fluctuation." She basically switches phases. From seasoned warrior to depressed mother to frustrated deputy. (In Bright Guardian Akira's words) Now, NEEDLETAIL! THAT was character growth. While we're on Needletail, let's look back into the last arc. In A Vision of Shadows, he's actually one of the most PATIENT leaders. And it's not because he doesn't care. He lashes out at Alderheart for a second because he's so stressed that they're getting these god-darn prophecies and he feels powerless to help. That's why he's so reluctant to do anything during the Vision of Shadows. He tries to make things right with SkyClan in Squirrelflight's Hope. Also, let's be real: Does anyone REALLY think, that Bramblestar would have ACTUALLY done any of the things he did in Squirrelflight's Hope? Let me know because I don't see it happening. For the sake of writing in an antagonist, our beloved author, Erin Hunter, has decided to roll up Brambleclaw/star's personality into a paper ball and throw it into a still-burning yagna shala. (Look it up if you don't know what I mean) Let me know what you think!

  77. Claustro phobia

    Claustro phobia

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    Bramblestar: I'm nothing like my father! Also bramblestar: abuses squirrelflight, neglects her, doesn't listen to her opinions and it takes her DYING for him to realize, from that tiny, smaller than the smallest atom brain, that he still loves her.

  78. jamie ambrose

    jamie ambrose

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Finally someone who agrees that squirrel flight is great

  79. retrostellar

    retrostellar

    Өдрийн өмнө

    so we're all agreed that bramblestar is toxic, manipulative, and abusive? good, now let's dump him out and let squirrelflight finally be happy.

  80. Tristen Winters

    Tristen Winters

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    I haven’t been into warrior cats for literal years but I consistently watch your and others artists stuff on it because you guys are so good but gosh... the books writing is just awful especially for relationships

  81. Chill_Itz_ Just_Lils

    Chill_Itz_ Just_Lils

    Өдрийн өмнө

    I wish GreyStripe became leader 😔👌

  82. TaniAa Reynal2

    TaniAa Reynal2

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Hey, I love what you put on the table here! Is rlly interesting. You think we can translate it to other lenguagues? In the latin/hispanic communitie we try to talk and debate about this topic, but besides not all of us speak english is hard--- I truly bealive that can be good! So other fans who doesn't speak english o even deaf pleople can watch and undestand this video!!

  83. Houston _Co

    Houston _Co

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Yooo what's happening? I stopped reading these books after the fourth prophecy because I felt the series going down the drain

  84. Notsprite*

    Notsprite*

    Өдрийн өмнө

    time to get the spray

  85. LockandKeyHyena Animations

    LockandKeyHyena Animations

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Pinestar knows where it's at. mad respect

  86. Tala B

    Tala B

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Squirrelflight was an apprentice when they started hinting at a relationship. Even as a kid I looked at the book and said “wait hold up.” The power dynamic is so unhealthy and I'm glad you put it into words.

  87. Hannah Davies

    Hannah Davies

    Өдрийн өмнө

    I,, watching this and seeing the cycle of abuse part made me realize I might be in an abusive relationship...

  88. Retarded Rat

    Retarded Rat

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Even when I was younger and read these Bramblestar always gave me bad vibes and I hated how he treated squirrelflight

  89. Catzie_

    Catzie_

    Өдрийн өмнө

    This is why I stopped reading warriors -_-

  90. Nameless Jester

    Nameless Jester

    Өдрийн өмнө

    It makes me sad how people use 'instigation' as an excuse for abuse and toxicity. Saying 'she instigated me' is NOT an excuse to do anything you want just because someone goaded you on. See, in Squirrel Flight's hope, Squirrelflight exhibits CLASSIC symptoms of being in a long term manipulative and abusive relationship.. She starts thinking about how terrible she's been, she feels guilt over wanting perfectly reasonable things. She worries constantly about whether or not Bramblestar will leave her for someone else and is DESPERATE for that to not happen. Abuse weighs the victim down over time. You get emotionally exhausted and confused and hurt. It drags you down. It makes you feel like you can't escape. It's hopelessness. It's fear. Manipulation and emotional abuse are every single bit as dangerous and not okay as physical and sexual abuse.. They leave painful scars and can warp someone's psyche

  91. OwO What's this?

    OwO What's this?

    Өдрийн өмнө

    This helped me realize that I used to be in an abusive relationship for almost a year

  92. strawberry-b0ba

    strawberry-b0ba

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Bramblebitch is/was such a terrible, hostile character... I used to kind of like him, before I went through an abusive relationship like the one he put Squilf through. Then I realized how awful he was and how much he reminded me of my ex-partner.

  93. Holly

    Holly

    Өдрийн өмнө

    we need a podcast of this

  94. Ezra Luke

    Ezra Luke

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    Never read the novel version of warrior cats, and its been a few years since i read the comic version, but i'd just like to say that this rant is extreemly well orchestrated. I mean, i learnt a few things about characters in general. Well 👏 done 👏

  95. Natalia Woodring

    Natalia Woodring

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    Squirrel flight is the best warrior cat ever! Fight me😅

  96. Sophia Falc716

    Sophia Falc716

    Өдрийн өмнө

    I thought I was weird for hating him

  97. Lea Chen

    Lea Chen

    Өдрийн өмнө

    just had a realization. this was definitely a really dangerous thing to read and internally normalize growing up

  98. Sasha Bivens

    Sasha Bivens

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    This is sad, because I can't argue with hard rock evidence, and I really didn't want Bramblestar to be this way.

  99. L Gaines

    L Gaines

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Why couldn’t they portray Bramblestar as being a kind and supporting mate to Squirrelflight? It’s just kind of messed up

    • Prime The Great

      Prime The Great

      16 цагийн өмнө

      The Erins needed conflict, though most of the cases where he abused her could have easily been tweaked to make Bramble not be an accidental abuser (accidental in that the Erins definitely did not intend for him to be one, no matter how bizarrely consistent they are with it). Like having the rule he made in his SE come back and bite him in the tail with Tawnypelt or Tigerheatstar being the one to block Leafpool from healing Sunrise, or having Tigerstar influence him more on Squirrelflight and Bramble realize that Tiger is making him into an abuser

  100. SDChelsea

    SDChelsea

    Өдрийн өмнө

    Ok this was a great video

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