@Invisible, hated, Not wanted, Forever Alone hope you're ok man.

Yeah.. “feel free to come by unless your gamer name is king of kings. You toxic jrk hateful small minded intimidated destiny community

Oh thank god for the time stamps was about to do it myself

Cheers dude. first encounter was very fun, it's took us super long to realize we had to shoot the smoke in the cleanse room on the second encounter, gonna have another go in a few hours! Did you see Cheese Forever's solo bonus chest video? Worth hitting for the mods.

ikr? it dropped down from 1080 to 360 once I hit the 10hr mark (tho I was watching it off and on for the past several days) super miffed, as I can't stand to watch something at that low quality

@Thraymn I can see him doing the bubble to drop orbs for teammates so they can start off Charged with Light, but I can't for the life of me understand why he switched to Helm of Saint 14 before doing it every time. He switches chest pieces to but that might be for ammo reserves.

@2Juiced4Me ah, well in that case I am unsure. I do notice he stops doing it after a while, so it could still be for the overshield boost, and since there wasn't an immediate captain spawn to deal with he deemed it not worth the hassle. It could also be that he's proccing a mod, although I don't know what that would be. I'm a warlock main, and this is the first raid race I've watched, so I can only guess at the reasons behind it.

@Thraymn No I'm a Titan and I use that helm when I bubble. It gives you an overshield when you leave bubble but it only lasts like 15-20s. If you watch my timestamp the OS falls off before the encounter even starts. I do not understand why he switches to Helm14 before the encounter to bubble.

I heard that that helm makes overshields last longer/until they get shot off (I haven't looked in collections to make sure.) If that's the case then that starting bubble would provide a persistent overshield for the first part of the battle for everyone that can run through the bubble (until it eventually collapsed.) He swaps off the helm to use an exotic that's more beneficial in moment to moment combat.

Patron of lost causes.

He was annoying AF... I could not play with him. I would gladly have missed out on day one emblem if I had to do it with him.

Um, Datto always main Titan...🙃

We need a good mix of both... Im a big fan of doing ones that most will never finish.

cross was the one who made the joke first, he’s shown his face before

@Lord Papi Darkwing I dont expect him to be greatness. Being an awesome content creator (which he is) doesnt mean he's gods gift to destiny. I think we all get that. Ive participated in every raid week 1 except GoS. And while I dont stream I can understand if the moment overtakes you. However I know what I watched and heard. He was not a leader, morale booster, or puzzle solver (and basically they got all their info from chat). He was just....there. When he messed things up he didnt own it a couple of times. When he could've took the initiative, he didnt. On the 3rd encounter he finally started grabbing cores, ill give him that. When the platforming section atarted through space he muted the chat to take in the awesomeness of that moment. That was great. Maybe the highlight of the stream. But it was a 12 hour stream....and as a fan I was disappointed more often than not.

Not to make excuses because I could be wrong, but did you ever think that maybe being on group and live streaming to an audience, on top of going in blind on a raid, was a little overwhelming? And maybe he was distracted? I can talk for England in my party chat, but sometimes if you’re playing with a new group or when you’re completely new to a raid, I kind of lose my nerve and don’t say much because I’m more focused on absorbing information on what exactly the hell you do. And then people assume you’re a bad player or slow or something lol. Bare in mind, a ton of wipes tends to take it out of you, even if you push on. Not everybody is fucking Gladd, Datto and Sweatcicle

I enjoy Aztecross. His personality makes his vids for me. But I agree. He was barely vocal, and barely took the initiative on any jobs. Bad watch compared to other streamers and honestly, as a gamer he lost some respect points for me...if it wasnt making mistakes and not owning up to them, it was just being there and killing adds...

@Emmett Fee you mean the guy that thought the Champions were blocking the terminals? The only stuff he knew he was reading in chat on discord. Guy was a idiot. Like seriously in the history of destiny when something is force fielded or electronically blocked and servitors are around you gonna claim you know for sure its the overload champions ha ha. Guy was douchy and reading shit its great he was scoping on what other teams were doing cause it helped. But I don't think he had one original thought the whole time.

@Koallz 87 obviously it his choice. Stupid response move on.

@Emmett Fee lol Good one.

the reason he was "talking over everyone" and thinks he knows everything is because he knows every thing unlike you, you know nothing

He is not your raid teammate stop complaining it’s their choice to choose who to play with

I have to agree just cause he has been used so much... Part of my likes it also but that's just nostalgia. Someone above me also made a good point though about why Taniks was a good choice.

@Obi-Wan Pepp’roni That might’ve been what people were expecting before Beyond Light, but it was pretty clear after the campaign that Taniks and Atraks were going to play a big part in the raid, and I don’t see how Clovis would fit in there. Also, the guy was asking for a different Fallen, not Clovis. I’m not saying Clovis wouldn’t have been an interesting boss, but that isn’t what my comment was talking about.

uh yes and i can’t blame him, why not fight clovis bray himself as an exo like everybody who didn’t datamine was expecting

Honestly yes. We’ve fought him 4 or 5 times already. They should’ve used someone else, anyone would’ve been good.

in fact it actually makes sense because the pyramids chose hosts that have deemed themselves worthy of combating light wielders, all of the nightmare incarnations and resurrected are those we have fought before. and the deep stone crypt raid lore centres around the pyramid being the source of the exo's network. it makes sense that the reborn creatures would be people like taniks and atriks.

I was watching it live, people said that multiple times, even having the entire chat being a wall of telling him that, he read it and ignored it

@NSANE I get people like that all the time on LFG. It sucks. It sucks was trying to teach this raid to clan mates and we were one short. Musta been this dudes brother or something. Comes in and want to take over and do the 4 ball strat on Taniks. Im sorry I teach everyone the normal way then once they got it down we do fancy shit. And I agree there really is no reason not to do the 4 ball EXCEPT if everyone is new. Sorry im ranting now. This dude just reminds me if the guy lol.

@KapnKrunch yup. annoying as hell

Is he the one talking like 90% of the time...

Yeees. Can’t stand that clown

Yeah... kujay, banned_wipe, and someone else were being toxic and calling us cheaters in trials a while back. Definitely not a person I respect but it is what it is

Well he helped by reading chat tips being feed to him... But dude was a idiot lol The overloads are blocking the terminals part cracked me up...

After 8 hours it took my team to get past second encounter this moment made it all worth it.

I belive the OST is "Deep Stone Lullaby" from the Beyond Light OST pack.

@Paddy Archibald you & me both

@Adam Beck that statement gives me ptsd.

@Nacho no, just finished it an hour ago. Fuck contest mode.

😂

@Adam Beck I heard that so many times

@elfaia Cross added some time stamps Also 9:16:04 is the sequence I was talking about

Any time stamp on what he did? Kinda missed the stream halfway and came back to everyone meme-ing about it

I thought that too

The real exo clovis was mond reset, he is now Bansee 44( gunsmith) and the mind of clovis was disabled and is only a large exo head. And joining timelines wouldn't make sense. So clovis exo body is now just Banshee44, his mind wont be a boss ever either i dont think

Alodensghost: Dude and your Team respect! 👍🏻

Idk what you mean this raid is amazing, the atmosphere, the music. The encounters seemed pretty cool too. sure taniks being the final boss made no sense but still it still looked like a pretty interesting fight. The raid felt massive in scale to. I mean you go to space and crash a space station for crying out loud

@Dad they were at home locked down? Tons of money spent on servers, advertising, cutscenes, etc

Yeah this expansion is lame, I waited for today to see the raid and it’s not that exciting at all. Lame all around expansion I love the game but I’ll be passing for 50$ Canadian

@Thomas M Why did they have limited resources? They sell season passes, expansions and a shit ton of emotes and other stuff from eververse

They were locked down and limiter resources, so for me and the limited resources they had, im okay with it, but, in the lore the Deep Stone Crypt has always just been the facility of making the exos, it was just the main facility in the deep of Europa, nothing special, clovis just was a man, not a hive who lives underground in ruins, sooo, it makes sense to be yknow, a facility

It was contest mode. I think once someone finished the raid, they lowered the difficulty.

@Thomas M I’m aware. I was in the raid all day today, and stuck in Atraks for a good 4 hours or so. It was tough, but we were having enemies not even spawn at the very beginning of the encounter after we triggered it. Was really frustrating

They are capped at 1230 light

@Bob Bobson That isn't true. Sorry.

I will say that Destiny 1 raids felt a lot more mysterious than the Destiny 2 raids, but I like most of them anyway. But I think this is one of Bungie's best.

@River Lynch VV made Spire and Crown, and I think they helped with making Scourge too. But Last Wish, like all of the other big expansion raids, was made solely by Bungie.

You guys also have to consider that Last Wish was made in conjunction with Vicarious Visions, whereas this raid was not.

@L Zapata yeah its more wrath than last wish, not a bad thing. this raid felt massive in scale even though its smaller. i mean fcuk we literally go to space and crash a space station

@Saul Hernnadez it times out at 12 hours, but they beat it. he may upload that

They never finished ?

@Astro4545 thx ^^

Yup, here is a twitter link: twitter.com/Aztecross/status/1330372611541512193?s=20

@Benjiizus except when almost every person I see talk about this raid says that Taniks was a bad/lazy choice and that he has nothing to do with the story, then it’s a problem. I’m not talking about 20-30% of people I see talk about it, I’m talking about 99% of people I see talking about it think that. people like you will always respond to comments without any actual reasoning or counter huh?

People will always complain about something

I agree... All these Dark Council Fallen... and we get Taniks?... AGAIN? Wtf Bungie? The hell does Taniks have anything to do with the narrative at this point? Quite disappointing.

@Robert Barber Atheon was the head Vex at the time and a direct danger to guardians, as well as the first raid. Calus was empower of one of the main races, mentioned in the red war story, and the main antagonist to the red legion, Raid Lairs aren’t full raids and they are raid lairs because they are shorter and specifically because they have zero connection to the story Galharan connected Savathun to Calus, Insurrection prime dealt directly with the black armory story Taniks is a recycled enemy, we have killed him many many times before, and one he has absolutely zero connection to anything in destiny right now. They could have made the boss a random nobody fallen and it even used a hit of stasis it would have had more bearing to the story than Taniks. Literally anything else would have made more sense. This was just laziness on bungie part, they didn’t want to come up with a new villain for the raid for their comeback expansion and it shows. Almost anyone I come across feels the same way I do and thinks that taniks should have had zero to do with this raid. Bungie was lazy, and deserves to be called out. they are more like activision on than they think

@Thomas M Cheers

@Valaned im on ps4 also I work a lot bug will be running DSC again after reset.

@KapnKrunch it's buried_boi, I'm on playstation, if that helps.

@Valaned whats your gamer tag... I'll take ya into DSC and GoS

@aKidnamedCudi100 Ps4, I'm a warlock main at 1234.

You can raid with my group. We also find ppl from LFG all the time. If your ever needing a group go on fireteams thread on the Destiny app or if your in PC there’s LFG discord servers.

I agree.

@Thomas M He was Eddy

Whatd he do

@JUDGEMENT LAW whyd it stop??

They didn't kill it the recording just stopped

@BankRoll Jay ah. Uhh haven’t got that far lol

@Hatsumi I’m talking about the exo encounter

@BankRoll Jay get on a sparrow and position it on the outside of the bubble and get off. If you get on your sparrow that is outside the bubble whilst you are inside you don’t have to worry about the cold

@Hatsumi how?

You can glitch it

Not Eddy